App: Caelthas - Dunno all you play, but I'm currently learning STO, and plan on playing New World and Ashes of Creation on release. (2/3)

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Okies, no worries, I wasnt sure myself if id actually make it. I do like the banter goin on here!
 
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I got yer banter right here buddy =). FYI, I'll be tabbing in and out of game for awhile. I'll keep an eye out in case I see you.
 

Silentgurl

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Sorry Kris, I'm out on the zombie games. Just not my bag. I play Rust and STO mostly right now, along with a game of Pathfinder 2 on Tabletop Simulator when everyone shows up. I do play some FPS's like SW BF2, Quake, CoD, etc, along with a lot of survival games.
And picked a main on STO? Currently running an SF Sci Officer. Too new to know if I should be doing something different.
you play Cod? you ever gotten into cold war yet? :)
 
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you play Cod? you ever gotten into cold war yet? :)
Sadly nah. I'd like to tho. I've been quarantining since Mar last year, so I've become a cheap bastard for 12 months lol. Haven't expanded my game lib much. I played CoD a TON back in MWII & III, and picked up WWII and Black Ops III (but haven't ever played it), and even Battlefield 1. Mostly for FPS tho I've been playing SW Battlefront II. Also, I play all those on Xbox 1, not PC, just FYI. I'd be down to sync up and play w/ anyone tho on any of those sometime. Hopefully soon the Wuhan gets under control and I'll have the economic freedom to get a new game or two.
 
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Aw man. Just logged off for now. My sleep sch'd is all jacked right now. I got about 3.5 hrs last night from 11-2:30 and been up since. Gotta take a nap soon as a buddy is coming over today to troubleshoot my gf's pc. I'll likely be back on around noon-1 pdt tho if you're still available.
If you ever want people to join you for TFOs or whatever content, just shout out in the sexytime channel. Most of the time people will be down for doing things, depending on how specific and miserable the content in question ;)

The biggest danger is that the long-time players may tear up the content too quickly. You may want to ask people to not demolish everything as quickly as they can if its TFOs, so you get a chance to actually play and to avoid the rather overtuned AFK penalty related to doing far less damage than other people (they really should fix that).
 
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Some of these TFO's I've done, i've marveled at the wrecking balls on my team. Thankfully, even when I've felt at my absolute least contributive, I've yet to be marked AFK, so I think I might have progressed enough to at least be able to "travel w/ the pro club" as it were, even if as a bench player lol.
 

Zandar1

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Any interest in FF XIV? We have a free company over on Aether DC/Siren Server.
 
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I've tried playing that game twice now. I just can't seem to stick with it. I'm looking at trying out the Mortal Online 2 stress test (starts tomorrow I think?) since it's free and the crafting looks nuts. Most of my play time right now is tied up in STO and Rust while I wait for the New World beta in July.
 

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Welcome to the application process. I'm here to ask the heavy-hitting questions.

1. What is your plan for rhe zombie apocalypse?

2. Does pineapple belong on Pizza?
 
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1. Find The Dude, because he's got the master plan.
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2. I'm of the opinion that pineapple can go where it pleases.
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Tell us something cool about yourself that has nothing to do with gaming. (Free hint: responding to your application thread with photo or video supporting evidence is a plus!)
I managed to land myself a fiance w/ a set of double D's.... but you ain't gettin' any photo or video evidence ya dig? heh.
Your first reaction 'to tell us something cool about yourself' is objectifying your fiancé into a pair of big boobs? Then you assume we want pictures? This is your behavior on an application where you're showing us 'who you are'? Unrepentant has people of all genders. I'm not convinced you would treat us with respect. My instinct is no, here.
 
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First read of it I didn't think anything of it. However on reread I do see novas point and I think I agree with nova at end of day.
I don't believe that comment in my opinion would belong on an application anywhere worded as is. My reasoning is I seen people half pay taken for two months and reduced rank for similar comments, even seen a drill seargent loose his hat and rank for lesser comment. More I think about it the more I have to say it is poor choice of words.

If I asked you how you could reword to improve the answer what would you say or change if I may ask?
 
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I agree with Nova and Justin. I understand the "DD" message may have been posted in jest, however there are many UeYs with wives, sisters and daughters. I'm concerned that objectifying your wife for a joke isn't a big deal to you which worries me as that could mean you would also objectify other people/UEYs. I wouldn't look forward to hanging out with someone who acts like this, but I understand this could have been a very bad joke. I'd love some follow up to hear what you have to say about this @Caelthas.

I was looking forward to chatting about your avatar as Rick Hunter is awesome and I love Robotech. But the above issue brought up Nova and Justin is more important.
 
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Your first reaction 'to tell us something cool about yourself' is objectifying your fiancé into a pair of big boobs? Then you assume we want pictures? This is your behavior on an application where you're showing us 'who you are'? Unrepentant has people of all genders. I'm not convinced you would treat us with respect. My instinct is no, here.
Given that two of the "Ten Commandments of the U" involve HOW to post pornography on the forums - not that you can't or shouldn't - I'd say worrying that being proud of the size of his own fiancé's breasts expresses unacceptable objectification of women seems a bit ridiculous to me. If left-wing populism ever dominates unrepentant then someone might as well take it out back like 'ol yeller.

My reasoning is I seen people half pay taken for two months and reduced rank for similar comments, even seen a drill seargent loose his hat and rank for lesser comment.
This isn't the military and I, for one, don't think we should look to the military for inspiration for the structure or running of the guild. The same is true of government, corporations, or organized religions.

Gaming isn't about rigid hierarchy and strict social rules, and that's where a lot of gaming guilds lose the plot. Unrepentant is about casual, laid-back gaming without all that bullshit. You don't have to like everyone, you don't have to approve of every aspect of your fellow UEY, you just have to be ready and willing to stow that baggage when you head into the games together and be ready to kick back and have a beer with them at the end, regardless of your differences.
 

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You do, however, have to be respectful to all of our members. And that INCLUDES our female members. So if that's going to be a problem, regardless of anyone's political leanings, then this isn't the community for them. That isn't up for debate.

The double D comment was objectifying of women, and it was in poor taste. Some communities might not take issue with that, but I expect better here. I don't however, think it's an automatic no vote. If that's generally how you think of women, then I'm just gonna be blunt... I'd rather you found another community. That goes double for anyone who slipped through our application process and thinks that kind of attitude is okay. If, however, you recognize that women are not the sum of their parts, and in hindsight that comment was wasn't cool, then I'm perfectly happy to let it go and move on.
 
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Thank you for the response @Gwynn. This was very well written and I appreciate that attitude in the U.
 
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You do, however, have to be respectful to all of our members. And that INCLUDES our female members. So if that's going to be a problem, regardless of anyone's political leanings, then this isn't the community for them. That isn't up for debate.
At risk of debating something that isn't up for debate, I'm not sure I agree that talking about his fiance's boobs is disrespectful to women as a whole or somehow directly disrespecting female UEY. I imagine she knows him better than we do and she clearly doesn't think he's a vile misogynist or we can assume she wouldn't be interested in marrying him. It's also not like this community doesn't have a 114 page long nsfw thread calling for people to post boob and moob pics, right? Would it, like that thread, defuse the idea that talking about a woman's breasts is sexist and objectifying if he told us his own cup size and included his fiance's opinion of it?

An egalitarian treatment of the non-binary Hoob! (H being sort'v the mid-point between B and M, and the first letter of human).
 
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It's also not like this community doesn't have a 114 page long nsfw thread calling for people to post boob and moob pics, right? Would it, like that thread, defuse the idea that talking about a woman's breasts is sexist and objectifying if he told us his own cup size and included his fiance's opinion of it?

An egalitarian treatment of the non-binary Hoob! (H being sort'v the mid-point between B and M, and the first letter of human).
That thread is there to encourage positive body image. It is not there for people to wander over salivating, as Caelthas' comment would imply. That's the difference. Well said, Gwynn.
 

Kiserai

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If a joke isn't well-received we would let a member rephrase or simply apologize for any offense and move on. We can do the same for an applicant in here.

As with any other time there's a member who is uncomfortable with a comment, we give a great deal of latitude to the fact that people have different life experience and that we need to be cognizant of those differences. It's impossible to avoid ever accidentally having a faux pas but it's easy to make amends and move on, and that's generally what our mantra entails. What constitutes disrespect is extremely situation-dependent, but it's best to generally defer to how others are impacted and leadership can clarify if it's in question. Those discussions belong in private messages or Member Request, not here.
 
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Ah. Some actual "getting to know you" conversation has started. Excellent.
Given the amount of interaction that's occurred recently, I'm debating the best way to respond to it all. I don't want to spam some nauseatingly long post, so I think I'll do this reply explaining the evolution of my comment, then subsequent replies to each post following. Hopefully that breaks up the dialog into palatable doses.

So how did I find myself here, applying to your community? I was playing STO, enjoying the solo experience, but with the accelerated leveling curve found myself at level cap feeling as though I knew only 2% of the game and feeling lost and overwhelmed by how much there was left to learn. Hmm. Time to suck it up and join a guild/fleet I guess. So I checked the Fleet Finder. I found a lot in there. Fleets with terrible names. Fleets with no info. Fleets that appeared necro'd years ago. Then I saw this name.

Unrepentant.

Ooh. That's a great word. I love words. And I love the defiance of that one. Lemme look into them. Hmm, an app process. I can dig that. I enjoy being part of a like-minded community that's ok with keeping the riff raff out. I found the 10 commandments. And I laughed. Hard. 'Ok', I thought, 'Maybe these are my kind of people'. "We're looking for they type of person we want to have a beer with". o_O... Excellent. Does this mean there's still a chill place out there in the internet ether where you don't have to pre-qualify each thought through HR before speaking? Where we can have bar talk, not office talk? I think I might like this place, lemme apply.

So I filled out the questionnaire, being mindful to stay faithful to who I am. I don't want to 'say the right thing' to get through screening. I'm looking for a place where I can be me. And then, I came to the question in question. "Something cool about yourself"... I thought about a few different things that might be interesting to strangers. Then my fiance, sitting behind me playing her own game, said something. I'd looked back at her, realized she was the best thing about me, and decided that'd be my answer. But do I reeeeally want to put some sappy thing here, answering THIS question? "We're looking for the type of person we want to have a beer with". Ok, let's do this. I'll phrase this like I would if I were having a beer with the fellas at the bar. Can I talk like this? I don't want to be barred from doing so. So I typed it. With intent. To see if what the guild charter intro said was true. "Unrepentant is a socially-driven casual guild with a focus on freedom." So I called her over.

"Hey babe!". She came over, I explained what I was doing, the app questionnaire, then this question and my response. She gasped. whacked my shoulder, laughed hard. then kissed my cheek saying "love you hun" before going back to her desk. This didn't make me feel that she thought she was being objectified. So I left the answer as is and moved on.

Just in case, I soon replied to someone else's comment saying: " Krishach- truth. I was filling out that app reading "Tell us something cool about yourself that has nothing to do with gaming", and she was sitting behind me on her PC playing a game. I thought, 'yup, convincing her I'm worthwhile was the coolest thing I ever pulled off. =) ". I said that to clarify that convincing her, all of her, not parts of her, was the coolest thing I'd ever done.

But again, I made that answer with intent. The guild charter states: " However, we recognize this freedom comes with a responsibility: We are free so long as that freedom does not deny our fellow members the right to enjoy the game." My commenting on *one* aspect of my fiance, among the many that I love, does not deny any members enjoyment of any game. Or at least, it really shouldn't. As I'd read somewhere through this application process that the process exists also for *me* to get to know *you*, can you think of a better way for me to find out if this is the kind of community that I'm looking for? One where people don't actively take offense if they are not the ones being spoken about? The 2nd Commandment refers to not holding grudges. Excellent. I want a drama-free environment. The commentary under the commandments states: " You don't have to like everyone here, but you do have to play together, so when you log into our games or forums, you put your U face on and treat everyone like a friend." Awesome. As I said above when mentioning bar talk, not office talk, this is how I would speak around friends. You should know that about me *before* I'm accepted, not after don't ya think? So why not be honest in the application process? And my comment on my fiance, made with her approval, does not in any way suggest, imply, presuppose, or otherwise implicate that I would be disrespectful towards other members or their loved ones. To me, all it did was show that I'm not politically correct. Which I'm not.

As to how I feel about my fiance, I'll say this. I'd mentioned in one of my other answers (stupidest thing done I think) that I just lost a leg to one mean ass infection. Four surgeries and 64 days in the hospital and rehab. We'd been out of work quarantined for months due to the Wuhan, and times were already hard when this happened. As I laid there post-op, 27 kinds of high on some badass narcotics, she said "You know this doesn't change anything right? I'm not going anywhere"... well.... god damn.... what can a man say to that. What'd I say? "Babe... Looks like I'm not going to be able to go anywhere for awhile either (as I looked down at my stump), why don't you take my debit card and go pick yourself out a ring". She got misty. I like to think it's because she found that super romantic... but I reserve the possibility that she might have just been overjoyed at being able to pick her own engagement ring, alleviating the possibility of me inflicting some eyesore on her finger lol. Since I got home from the hospital, due to the layout of the house and my wheelchair, I'm pretty much stuck in one room while I wait for my prosthetic. The Den. The bath and shower are upstairs, so I have to sponge bath down here. She helps. I can't physically get to the bathroom, so I have to urinate into 2qt jugs. She has to empty them. I won't go into details about #2... So ask yourself this. Would she stick around through all that If I was some awful douche? Would you?

Justin asked me: " If I asked you how you could reword to improve the answer what would you say or change if I may ask?"
If I did so, would that be... Unrepentant?
adjective
adjective: unrepentant
  1. showing no regret for one's wrongdoings.
    "he was unrepentant and said that his comments were completely accurate"
*Apolgies, this one turned out longer than expected, but I felt all of this was germane to the current conversation.
 
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